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Dec. 8th, 2003 01:54 pmTo: Summers, Alex; Yoshida, Shiro
From: Madrox, Jamie
Subject: Dear Jerkweasels
The hell were you thinking kicking Angelo out of you guys's room? I stumbled over him on the couch this morning in the rec room and, y'know what? Not the comfiest place to sleep, that couch. And trust me when I tell you that not getting enough sleep isn't damn well going to help him.
I mean, of all the insensitive crappy things to do--what, you didn't think he was miserable enough already, or you just thought it'd be fun to kick him when he was down, or what?
He said I could tell you what happened, and hell, maybe it'll knock some sense into your fool heads. Something happened in the gym last week, I dunno what, but it sent him into trauma flashbacks. I had to pin him between four dupes to get him to stop trying to kill me long enough to talk him out of it--but what's really eating him is, before I got there, he slugged Paige on accident, and he's all torn up with guilt about it. And on top of that there's something pretty messed-up in his head somewhere that's making him have the flashbacks in the first place, and he needs to get help about it.
Help. Not insensitive jerks pitching him out of his room. Get me?
So for Chrissake cut the guy maybe an inch or two of slack and at least let him sleep in his own damn bed.
To: Madrox, Jamie
Date: 2003-12-08 08:49 pm (UTC)CC: Yoshida, Shiro
Finally someone tells us. Now I'm really glad we did what we did.
Which would you have preffered: Angelo still sulking whilst hiding in our roo, sinking lower and lower into depression or him now getting help from people and sleeping one night, one night! on the couch? We got rid of the worst of the two options by denying him a place to hide.
And if he's welcome back anytime he wants, after he's gotten the help he needed.
oh yes, and next time THINK about what you write before you send it. I thought the above would be obvious and I don't appreciate being attacked for trying to help. I've been where Angelo is and I wish someone had dragged me out of hiding to get help. You don't know what your talking about, Madrox, Got it?
Re: To: Madrox, Jamie
Date: 2003-12-08 09:49 pm (UTC)Swift kick in the ass didn't work on me. Angelo's not me, granted, but do you know if he's gotten help yet? Because I sure as hell don't. Far as I can tell, there's just as much chance you kicked him further over the edge. You even bother asking any of the, you know, actual mental health professionals we have hanging around the place before you decided shot-put therapy might be fun?
Re: To: Madrox, Jamie
Date: 2003-12-08 09:59 pm (UTC)All those mental health professionals weren't doing him much good while he was holed up in our room! In fact, why don't you go ask Dr. MacTaggart about the e-mail she sent us, telling us that a change of scenery would be good for Angelo. We had teacher permission, how do you like that?
Re: To: Madrox, Jamie
Date: 2003-12-08 10:01 pm (UTC)I think I'll do that. I don't believe she'd tell you to toss him out on his ass.
Re: To: Madrox, Jamie
Date: 2003-12-08 10:09 pm (UTC)Shiro and I had our reasons, so get over it. The whole damn thing had nothing to do with you anyway...
Re: To: Madrox, Jamie
Date: 2003-12-08 10:22 pm (UTC)Look, I guess I can accept you were trying to help and you think he's overreacting--even if I kinda want to point out that maybe nobody knows the whole story yet and this is just the tip of the iceberg, and it's too early to know if he's overreacting. And I'm sorry I flew off the handle at you guys, it's just . . . when it was me, what I wanted was somebody to come find me, not kick me when I was down, and that's what it looked like you were doing. And I figured you were a nicer guy than that, so that made me more mad.
Not gonna say I agree with your method, but I should've figured you were trying to help somehow. Sorry I lost my temper.
Re: To: Madrox, Jamie
Date: 2003-12-08 11:13 pm (UTC)Re: To: Madrox, Jamie
Date: 2003-12-08 11:37 pm (UTC). . . Look, this is probably gonna sound really stupid considering I started out yelling at you, and you can tell me to buzz off, I'll completely understand, but--you know better than to not get help if you need it, right? I mean, they're good at that, here.
Re: To: Madrox, Jamie
Date: 2003-12-09 01:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-12-08 09:40 pm (UTC)From: Yoshida, Shiro
CC: Summers, Alex
Subject: Fuck off
Listen, Madrox. This is none of your business, so I suggest you shut your mouth before I do it for you. That being said, I do not care what happened to Angelo. I did when it first happened, but his decision to hole himself up in our (emphasis on the possessive pronoun which excludes you) room and not seek out whatever help he needed changed my mind. I apologize if it seems that I'm downplaying whatever trauma he experienced, but enough is enough.
I do not care if he punched someone. I do not care if he had flashbacks. I am sick and tired of his moping. I think the correct colloquial term for him is "angstophile." He is trying to make people pity him and pay attention to him instead of getting himself out of his rut. He did not do any serious damage, much less kill Paige, so as far as Alex and I are concerned, he was overreacting.
I, on the other hand, have accidentally killed someone with my own hands, a family member no less, and you don't see me rolled up in a ball crying myself to sleep every night. So don't tell me that I do not understand the situation. Once Angelo gets to the stage where people die to the left and right of him, maybe I'll have some pity and sympathy to spare.
So until then, Madrox, fuck off.
-Yoshida Shiro
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Date: 2003-12-08 09:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-12-08 09:58 pm (UTC)